Guess the Place

[johnfilmer]

Martin, Google is your friend 

I and probably others have held fire as you have been so close.

[John Walker]

It's a chapel adjoining a shrine.

[MartinR]

Hasn't anyone else any ideas?  I've exhausted GSV, Google and my memory and the only places of worship of any description I can find on either side of the river are teh shrine complex and the parish church.  Does this chapel still exist?  Is it obvious as a chapel, or is it part of a house/shop/pub that was once used as a chapel?

[John Walker]

MartinR   -  Correct village but it's not a church.  There are other chapels close by.

You are so close with your earlier line  It's not the shrine of St Simon Stock at Aylesford (aka "The Friars")

[MartinR]

St Peter & St Pauls, Aylesford?  I know it's CofE, and I can't recall wall decorations from last time I was there, but it appears to be the only other PoW in Aylesford itself.

[John Walker]

So far ...

• It's not the shrine of St Simon Stock at Aylesford (aka "The Friars")
• It's a small chapel [Query: is this because it's RC and therefore not a CofE parish church?]
• It's near two bodies of water, one tidal, one non-tidal
• It's not St Anne's Margate, lies to the west of there
• The GTP does show St. Anne with her daughter St Mary, but we don't know if this is the chapel's dedication
• There are one or more bells, but Love's Guide to the Church Bells of Kent doesn't list a St Anne's
• 700 years of history

... anything I've missed?

Hmm.  Stumped.  I'm off to the Kent Show.

Could it be Faversham area?

You are so close with your first line MartinR 

[MartinR]

There's St Henry & St Elizabeth in The Broadway, Sheerness.

[johnfilmer]

Is this in a side chapel of church possibly dedicated to St Mary?

Two bodies of water, one tidal could be a dock, or defences such as around Sheerness at Barton’s Point?

[MartinR]

So far ...

• It's not the shrine of St Simon Stock at Aylesford (aka "The Friars")
• It's a small chapel [Query: is this because it's RC and therefore not a CofE parish church?]
• It's near two bodies of water, one tidal, one non-tidal
• It's not St Anne's Margate, lies to the west of there
• The GTP does show St. Anne with her daughter St Mary, but we don't know if this is the chapel's dedication
• There are one or more bells, but Love's Guide to the Church Bells of Kent doesn't list a St Anne's
• 700 years of history

... anything I've missed?

Hmm.  Stumped.  I'm off to the Kent Show.

Could it be Faversham area?

[John Walker]

Yes - one is tidal and the other is static.  It's a small chapel.  There is at least one bell at this location that I've heard but not specifically on this chapel.

Location Clue: Over 700 years of history here.

[MartinR]

"One of the waters is tidal." is that "ONLY one of the waters is tidal"?
There's no church with tower bells dedicated to St. Anne in the whole of Kent.

[John Walker]

You are correct with Saint Anne and her daughter Mary who was the mother of Jesus.
Location wise you need to head West a way.
One of the waters is tidal.

[MartinR]

I've found another mother/daughter pair.  St Bridget of Sweden (c. 1303 – 23 July 1373) was the mother of St Catherine of Sweden (c. 1332 – 24 March 1381).  Mum founded the religious order of the Most Holy Saviour, or the Bridgettines with daughter taking over on her death.  So - do I need to start searching for a St Bridget's or St Catherine's church?

[MartinR]

Two possibilities that I've found:

• St. Anna and her daughter St. Mary (the mother of Jesus) at the temple gate.
• St Sophia and one of her daughters (Ss Faith, Hope and Charity) with an unidentified bishop.

I'm inclined towards the former since you mentioned "Namewise, it appears to be quite complicated and varies depending on which religion".  In Islam she is Hannah and her daughter Maryam who was mother of Isa.

Right, really long shot based on (1) most of your GTPs are in the Canterbury/Thanet area; (2) I'm guessing the bodies of water could be the Thames estuary and the North Sea; (3) it looks rather RCish rather than Cof E or Free Church; (4) The only St. Anne's I can find is in Margate.  So my guess is:

• Church:                     St Anne's RC.
• Address:                    Eastern Esplanade
• Nat Grid:                    TR 36974 71221
• Nearest Post Code:   CT9 3AA
• Co-ords (WGS84):     51°23'26"N,001°24'17"E or 51.390515,1.404772

[John Walker]

I must admit that I'm not well up on the religious side of this but if I have read and understood correctly, the daughter was also a saint. Namewise, it appears to be quite complicated and varies depending on which religion.  I'll be very interested to read replies from those of you with more knowledge on this subject once the location has been correctly guessed.

I'm better at answering questions about the place ie. chapel and the location.

Location Clue: Near two lots of water.