Author Topic: Guess the Place  (Read 1040156 times)

Offline John Walker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8597 on: June 20, 2023, 10:57:08 PM »
Not far from a busy entertainment centre and two rather large buildings which were built as hotels - one is now apartments and the other is part hotel and part apartments as I understand it.

Offline MartinR

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1576
  • Yorkshire exile, father of two Men of Kent
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8596 on: June 20, 2023, 10:52:10 PM »
Ooo, that was sloppy of me.  "200' of tidal range would indicate ..." should be "200' range of foreshore covered by tides would indicate ...". 

Offline Beachbum

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 440
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8595 on: June 20, 2023, 09:43:39 PM »
Found it. That made me laugh as the foreground caught me out


Can anyone else find this?

Offline John Walker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8594 on: June 20, 2023, 02:49:05 PM »
Yes - tidal.  200ft is only a guess - it's not Pegwell Bay or the Medway/Swale system.

Best i can find is that currently the tide range between high and low tide is around 17ft in the area of my GTP.

Harbour not far away.

Offline MartinR

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1576
  • Yorkshire exile, father of two Men of Kent
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8593 on: June 20, 2023, 01:49:21 PM »
If the water varies between 30' and 200', then it is either: (1) tidal or (2) a reservoir.  200' or tidal range would indicate either Pegwell Bay or else the Medway/Swale system.  A reservoir would be Bewl Water.  I can't see anything similar at Bewl, so am I right in guessing tidal?

Offline John Walker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8592 on: June 20, 2023, 01:37:23 PM »
Can easily be seen on GSV from a different angle.

Offline John Walker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8591 on: June 20, 2023, 09:55:24 AM »
Water nearby - sometimes about 30ft away and other times a couple of hundred feet away.

Offline John Walker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8590 on: June 19, 2023, 12:02:42 PM »
Great info on the hospital MartinR.

Offline John Walker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8589 on: June 19, 2023, 12:01:40 PM »
@John: Berlin?  Before the Wall came down?  ;)

Come west quite a way.  ;D  Despite it's looks - it's nothing ominous.

Water nearby.

Offline MartinR

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1576
  • Yorkshire exile, father of two Men of Kent
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8588 on: June 19, 2023, 11:10:14 AM »
@John: Berlin?  Before the Wall came down?  ;)

Offline MartinR

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1576
  • Yorkshire exile, father of two Men of Kent
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8587 on: June 19, 2023, 11:08:33 AM »
Ramsgate Hospital took a little finding, it closed in 1986.  However it is a Grade II listed building¹ and is visible on GSV, though the name is rather obscured by trees.²  Its origin was the Seaman's Infirmary (1848-c.1884) located in the Carramore Hotel, West Cliff Road.³  The Seaman's Infirmary became the Seaman's Infirmary and General Hospital up until 1910.  The new buildings were put up between 1907 and 1909 using the bequest of Mr John Nicholas, cost £15,500, and named the "Ramsgate General Hospital and Seaman's Institution".  In 1948 the "and Seaman's Institution" was dropped.  In 1974 it became the "Isle of Thanet District Hospital, Ramsgate Wing" and closed in 1986.
  • Nat Grid:                    TR 37710 64579
  • Nearest Post Code:   CT11 9NR
  • Co-ords (WGS84):     51°19'50"N, 001°24'39"E or 51.3307,1.4108

The "Carramore Hotel" was another little mystery.  It was built in the 1840s and paid for by public subscription at a cost of £1.396.  It was a temporary measure, but lasted from 1848 until 1910 as mentioned above.  It then became a girl's home and eventually a hotel.  It is now The Grange Montessori Nursery.⁴  It is also listed Grade II.⁵  The address is 71West Cliff Rd, CT11 9LJ nearly opposite the later hospital.

¹ https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1262019?section=official-list-entry
² https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3309016,1.4108911,3a,59.1y,172.73h,89.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX-ovO15rsZUoepymdqHEBw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu
³ https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=464
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3307076,1.4102373,3a,90y,334.71h,83.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spQngMOpf4F00AEHesvcMng!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1281502?section=official-list-entry

Offline John Walker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8586 on: June 19, 2023, 12:00:56 AM »
Thanks Beachbum.  At first, I had no idea where to start. Then I spotted Princess Margaret in the background and went from there.

Next one ....

Where is this structure and what is it?

Offline Beachbum

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 440
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8585 on: June 18, 2023, 08:16:33 PM »
Spot on John Walker.

Princess Margaret named a new Road on the Newington Housing Estate, which was built to replace all the Bombed out houses from WW2.

Over to you

Offline John Walker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8584 on: June 18, 2023, 08:05:10 PM »
Princess Margaret visited Ramsgate in 1950 and went to Ramsgate Hospital. The report says a guard of honour by the West Kents was there so I guess that was the occasion in the photo.


Offline Beachbum

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 440
Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8583 on: June 18, 2023, 07:41:39 PM »
Well spotted John Walker, it is indeed Pincess Margaret.