Guess the Place

[John Walker]

Ah, so I didn't get it, but then I was only following Stuart's clues.

Is Shoot99 correct?  Where did you get the photo John?  Presumably it's now over to Shoot99.

I put St Margaret's of Antioch Church in Google Images and the photo came up with the correct title of the church which confirmed shoot999's guess. 

[shoot999]

Ah, so I didn't get it, but then I was only following Stuart's clues.

Is Shoot99 correct?  Where did you get the photo John?  Presumably it's now over to Shoot99.
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Happy for you to have it Martin as you followed the clues and played the game. Mine was merely a suggestion to grandarog of where to look as the other church is just down the road.

[grandarog]

    Thanks for your Photo JohnWalker.
    It is always worrying when you know you are right to dispute something but don't have the answer to clear up the problem .

[MartinR]

Ah, so I didn't get it, but then I was only following Stuart's clues.

Is Shoot99 correct?  Where did you get the photo John?  Presumably it's now over to Shoot99.

[John Walker]

A more recent view - only found it due to shoot999's post.

[shoot999]

   Stu's GTP had me completely fooled having known Upchurch for over 25 years and lived here for the last
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To throw the cat among the pigeons. i have done a lot of renovations and repairs to the Graves here and am very familiar with the Churchyard.
  There is no background view from any where in the churchyard (old or new part) that match's the picture. Certainly not with gravestones against a wall. The only wall with similar brickwork is flat topped and is tight to the wall of the Crown Pub, which has a brick out building, that would be in the left of the picture but isn't. I can be pretty sure the photo was not taken in St Mary's  at Upchurch. I have spoken with a couple of longer term residents and they do not recall a tree trunk cut into a seat either. Hopefully the GTP can be resolved

Maybe a trip down the lane to St Margaret's of Antioch Church at Lower Halstow to match up the background?

[grandarog]

   Stu's GTP had me completely fooled having known Upchurch for over 25 years and lived here for the last
 12.
To throw the cat among the pigeons. i have done a lot of renovations and repairs to the Graves here and am very familiar with the Churchyard.
  There is no background view from any where in the churchyard (old or new part) that match's the picture. Certainly not with gravestones against a wall. The only wall with similar brickwork is flat topped and is tight to the wall of the Crown Pub, which has a brick out building, that would be in the left of the picture but isn't. I can be pretty sure the photo was not taken in St Mary's  at Upchurch. I have spoken with a couple of longer term residents and they do not recall a tree trunk cut into a seat either. Hopefully the GTP can be resolved

[stuartwaters]

Yes, I did know that but seeing as that kind of spire is quite rare,I wanted to avoid any reference to it.

[MartinR]

Thank you for the complement.

I have what passes for me as a busy day tomorrow so it will be tomorrow evening before I have anything to post.  I'll endeavour to be as cryptic as possible!

By the way, did you note that the spire is another bipartite spire?  A neat link to the previous GTP.

[stuartwaters]

MartinR, you are a genius! The artwork was indeed in the churchyard of the church of St Mary the Virgin in Upchurch. It is or was (I don't know because I haven't visited since I took the picture) behind the church so GSV wouldn't have been any help anyway.

And there was I thinking I was being cryptic with my clues so far. Further clues would have been that the village stands on an ancient road, so ancient in fact that it pre-dates British history. Also that there was a Roman settlement on the site and that a famous pottery was located in the village.

Over to you.....

[MartinR]

Upchurch: St Mary the Virgin looks possible.  It's in Swale, it's to the west of Bobbing and it has (in part) the right type of wall.  Unfortunately GSV is no help.

Looking up Francis Drake¹ in Wikipedia states that his father moved from Devon to Upnor where he eventually became the Vicar.  There is a couple of problems here though: (1) the Upnors were part of the parish of Frindsbury until a new church was built in Lower Upnor in 1884 and (2) Upnor is in Medway, not Swale!  However Upchurch² in WP states that "The settlement of Otterham Quay lies a mile west of the village at the head of Otterham Creek. This small port gave young Francis Drake his first experience of the sea".  Another article on the Rainham history website proved far more details.³  It appears that Edmund (Francis' father) was vicar of Upchurch 1560-1567.

Location of church:

• Nat Grid:                    TQ 84374 67497
• Nearest Post Code:   ME9 7AJ
• Co-ords (WGS84):      51°22'36"N, 000°38'52"E or 51.37658,0.64779

Corner of Horsham Lane and The Street


¹https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Drake
²https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upchurch
³http://www.rainham-history.co.uk/articleslist/20-the-real-edmund-drake-vicar-of-upchurch-1560-1567

[stuartwaters]

Holy Trinity Church, Queenborough?

Nope. Another clue tomorrow if nobody's got it by then. Shoot99 was on the right track.

[John Walker]

Holy Trinity Church, Queenborough?

[stuartwaters]

Drake the seafarer?

Yes, a Devon man who learned his trade on the River Medway.

[shoot999]

 Drake the seafarer?