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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8889 on: August 22, 2023, 09:34:14 PM »
Maidstone area?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8888 on: August 22, 2023, 09:10:21 PM »
Quick opener- Faversham?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8887 on: August 22, 2023, 08:23:03 PM »
Thanks CAT, a tricky one for exact location. Well done MartinR and John Walker.

So next one "200 years?"

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8886 on: August 22, 2023, 03:20:17 PM »
Thanks  for more detail, I was looking at the wrong hill! (Thanks Google :P).  Best view is from https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.1938542,1.139879,3a,75y,355.4h,84.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9lCS4q4PSQOqbnGz3VBj1A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu.  Location information of the bench:
    • Nat Grid:                 TR 19443 48642
    • Co-ords (WGS84):  51°11'41"N,001°08'22"E or 51.19484,1.13935

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8885 on: August 22, 2023, 01:52:20 PM »

Here's a distant view taken from South Barham Hill.   Aprox  51.193810, 1.138304.  You might need to move left or right a bit to see it on top of the hill.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8884 on: August 22, 2023, 01:35:37 PM »
I quite agree that Beachbum should take the honour with this one. The true origin of the name is lost in the mists of time, or a musty box in an archive store, but its later reuse of 'Jumping Downs' can be traced on the earlier maps of the Ordnance Survey from 1871, as well as the Barham Tithe map of 1842. There is the possibility it may have referred to quarrying of the moderately steep sloping valley sides as a portion of land opposite recorded as 'Part of Stone Quarry Field' and 'Stone Quarry Field'.

The two included images show it in recent years as a nature reserve, whilst the second is the LIDAR image showing the course of the motorcycle track, the lumps and bumps of which are vaguely discernible in the reserve today. For its O.S. location, its at TR19407 48639, or 51°11'41.52"N,001°08'19.83"E in watery terms.

Over to you Beachbum and apologies for the delays.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8883 on: August 22, 2023, 10:57:54 AM »
The location information for Jumping Downs Nature Reserve found by entering the name into Google Maps is:
  • Co-ords from Google maps: 51.19293447583034, 1.1360682545372907
  • Nat Grid:                               TR1922248420
  • Nearest Post Code:              CT4 6LN
  • Co-ords (WGS84):                51°11'35"N,001°08'10"E

Can't see any benches though.  someone else will have to explain where in the reserve the bench is.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8882 on: August 22, 2023, 09:07:31 AM »
As John Walker says ,Its a Nature Reserve named Jumping Downs .
   Named by Anglo Saxon,s it means Hilly or Humpy Farming Ground   .Probably nowadays people think it to refers Horse Race Steeple Chasing or to the motor Bike,s Jumping the Hillocks when Scrambling.

Beachbum Wins he found the Bench first. :)

Something else I've leaned from GTP.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8881 on: August 22, 2023, 07:08:39 AM »
As John Walker says ,Its a Nature Reserve named Jumping Downs .
   Named by Anglo Saxon,s it means Hilly or Humpy Farming Ground   .Probably nowadays people think it to refers Horse Race Steeple Chasing or to the motor Bike,s Jumping the Hillocks when Scrambling.

Beachbum Wins he found the Bench first. :)

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8880 on: August 21, 2023, 10:54:41 PM »
Well, I know the location and the current name for the area, but I can't find any clue as to the origin of the name.  Unless there's some connection with the racecourse that used to be on the Barham Downs outside Canterbury.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8879 on: August 21, 2023, 09:17:55 PM »
Apologies for the delay, but you are definitely heading the right way Beachbum and are in the right parish of Barham and the bench's dedication. A little more precision on its location, the name of which is a reflection of the lands former use.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8878 on: August 21, 2023, 08:38:52 PM »
The Barham Motorcycle Rider is Tom Arter (Arter Bros).

Tom Built many successful TT bikes. Peter Williams was one of his crew, he later became Norton's development engineer.

I brought a Greeves 250 trials bike with silverstone front forks and Sammy Miller exhaust (I was 15)

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8877 on: August 19, 2023, 11:31:15 PM »
So to move things on, this is Ray Bovis and his dog brodie remembered by the memorial bench at Barham.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8876 on: August 19, 2023, 06:44:26 PM »
Looks like people are getting close, but no takers so far!

The site of this 'monumental carving' overlooks one of East Kent's most scenic valley routes

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8875 on: August 18, 2023, 11:59:36 PM »
An interesting Memorial indeed.

So I brought my first Motorcycle from the Rider below. One of the original members of the Club running the Races.