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Offline John Walker

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9613 on: February 14, 2024, 10:28:10 AM »
In full view on a wall in a medium size town.  On GSV too.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9612 on: February 14, 2024, 12:53:34 AM »
Will add clues if not guessed straightaway.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9611 on: February 13, 2024, 02:52:24 PM »
Next one up this evening ...

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9610 on: February 13, 2024, 10:41:04 AM »
FYI, the chart wasn't online, it is one of the folio of real paper charts I have for navigation, hence the two handwritten "(NOTE)"s which refer to a warning about changing depths.  Just another hazard, the sands don't stay still!

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« Reply #9609 on: February 12, 2024, 11:28:45 PM »
Thanks MartinR.  It was just a guess as I haven't been able to find the navigation charts on-line.  Quite fascinating.  There must be a wealth of 'treasure' deep in those sands.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9608 on: February 12, 2024, 10:54:02 PM »
(second attempt)

Yes John, it is indeed the old ship swallower.  Cryptic clues would have been "Vespasian came here before he was emporer" (roman invasion of Britain) and "This man's son was a King and general" (King Harold Goodwinson).  I'm including a larger and uncensored part of the chart.  My initial submission was too big, I hope this one works.

If you look at Goodwin Knoll the drying height is 3.8m.  With normal tides that means it stands about 2m above low water, but is hidden less than 2m below the water.  It lurks there, just waiting to catch hold of your keel and add you to the Sands 2,000+ ships they've swallowed.  Better keep a good fix!

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9607 on: February 12, 2024, 08:53:55 PM »
Goodwin Sands?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9606 on: February 12, 2024, 05:00:39 PM »
I'll refrain from any jokes about landlubbers ... seriously ... it's quite an effort ...

John, your SWAG is wrong, but I can see why you thought so.  Grandarog, having pulled your leg a little, I'm afraid you are still a way off.

there'll be a clue along tomorrow morning if no one gets it.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9605 on: February 12, 2024, 02:09:38 PM »
Land lubbers Guess Knock John Maunsell Forts. :)

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9604 on: February 12, 2024, 12:34:24 PM »
A quick S.W.A.G. (Scientific Wild Arse Guess) off Queenborough?
Illegitimus nil carborundum

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9603 on: February 12, 2024, 11:03:09 AM »
No, not near a creek.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9602 on: February 12, 2024, 10:02:15 AM »
Near the entrance to one of the Kent creeks?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9601 on: February 12, 2024, 09:43:40 AM »
Quite an easy one next.  I've blanked out the names, but its an interesting navigation problem.  Can you identify the area to the right?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9600 on: February 12, 2024, 09:16:57 AM »
Interesting info CAT.

My earlier comment about a nearby cottage being named after one of my family names refers to Impett Cottage, just along the road from the church.  The Impetts were all over East Kent.  Impett is a name on my maternal grandmother's side.  My Great-grandfather (George Impett of Ickham) married a Measday - another name that appears over East Kent.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9599 on: February 12, 2024, 08:55:53 AM »
Apologies for the delay due to daughter's dissertation editing.

It was not Stodmarsh Church MartinR, but the similarities are there. It is indeed All Saints Church, importantly West Stourmouth to distinguish it from East Stourmouth, which has no church, but is a comparable sized settlement. Both Stourmouth's are a clear reflection of when the Isle of Thanet was a true island surrounded by the Wansum Channel and where the River (Great) Stour after flowing past Ashford and through Canterbury actually entered the south-western corner of the Wantsum. Due to this, the two settlements evolved as being at the 'mouth of the Stour', later Stourmouth despite being over 4.5miles from the sea.

The church itself is Grade I Listed and noted as being

The Church of All Saints, Stourmouth, contains late Saxon (c. 1000 or earlier), late 12th century, early 13th century, 14th and 15th century and post-Reformation work. The present church consists of a nave 45ft. 6 inches by 17ft. 3 inches, a south aisle of the same length and about 9ft. 4 inches in width "excluding the arcade in both instances"; a somewhat shorter and narrower north aisle whose width decreases a good deal from east to west; and an aisleless chancel, 24ft. 6 inches long from the west of the chancel arch to the east wall by 14ft. 9 inches broad. The original aisleless nave may be late Saxon c. 1000 A.D. or earlier. These are rough non-Caen stone quoins. Over the nave are the remains of a four-bay King-post roof "perhaps late 13th century in date" and inserted through the roof at the west end of the nave is a c. 14th century timber belfry. The chancel appears to date from c. 1200 and has a pair of lancets on either side. The east wall of the chancel and its buttresses and north and south returns, was completely rebuilt in the 19th century. The roof is largely 19th century. The north aisle probably dates from the 14th century, but contains the remains of 15th century windows. The top of the north aisle was cut down in the late 17th or 18th century to leave a low shed with a vestry at the west end; two dormers were added in the early 19th century. The west wall of the north aisle incorporated a 13th century buttress. Restoration work began on the south aisle in 1982 and concentrated on the roof. Excavation work took place within the church in 1985 and it was possible to produce a plan showing the different phases of building construction. The church is enclosed by an extensive earthwork.

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