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Offline stuartwaters

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5697 on: November 28, 2021, 09:35:54 AM »
Oooooh this looks familiar, Shornemead Fort by any chance?
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5696 on: November 28, 2021, 08:56:42 AM »
Funnily enough I know exactly where Local Hiker was Walking.
I will pass for a while,hopefully some one else from the 180  members will join in with a guess. :)

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5695 on: November 27, 2021, 10:32:04 PM »
Hoo identifies the correct part of Kent, so is heading in the right direction.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5694 on: November 27, 2021, 10:20:07 PM »
Hoo?
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« Reply #5693 on: November 27, 2021, 10:10:14 PM »
Thanks grandarog.


I went there a couple of years ago, the week after it shut for winter, and after heavy rain. There was no cafe, no toilets, lots of mud and mulched leaf litter, and flooding on the paths. It is definitely worth a visit, but I shall return one summer on a hot dry day!


Next GTP, an autumn walk back in 2016.


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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5692 on: November 27, 2021, 04:08:38 PM »
Fascinating stuff everyone.  Going to dig my chemistry set out  ;D

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5691 on: November 27, 2021, 04:03:15 PM »
Yes, your mixture is basically correct: roughly 75% KNO₃ with the remainder charcoal and sulphur.  Charcoal was usually in excess but compositions vary.  Blasting powder for mining and quarrying has less nitrate.  Sodium nitrate can be used and is as powerful, but is hygroscopic and therefore deteriorates faster unless kept sealed.  However, du Pont  manufactured a low-sodium nitrate form where the grains were coated in charcoal yto keep them dry, this was only for quarrying.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5690 on: November 27, 2021, 03:03:51 PM »
Thanks MartinR. I didn't know what an "incorporating" mill was ,that,s why I asked.

Each millstone weighed approximately 3 tons and the ingredients of sulphur, charcoal and saltpetre were milled for up to 5 hours, in batches of 50 lbs. The incorporated mixture was known as millcake.


I think that sulphur ,charcoal and saltpeter equals basic Gunpowder.

Cast iron sounds a bit dodgy with Gunpowder involved. ::) ???

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« Reply #5689 on: November 27, 2021, 01:20:53 PM »
They are the bases of the incorporating mills according to the link that Local Hiker gave.  This is mill at the Hagley gunpowder mill.  I believe that British practice was to use stone runners, not cast iron, but it gives the general view.


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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5688 on: November 27, 2021, 12:14:00 PM »
You have it Local Hiker,over to you.  :)


Does anyone know exactly what the bases were for?


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« Reply #5687 on: November 26, 2021, 11:08:05 PM »

Oare
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I delayed calling it until I sorted something out to carry the game on. I am getting short of GTP material.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5686 on: November 26, 2021, 10:14:24 PM »
Part of a gunpowder works?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5685 on: November 26, 2021, 10:03:10 PM »
This one should go with a bang...

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5684 on: November 26, 2021, 07:31:01 PM »
No .
1st Clue ............ Industrial.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #5683 on: November 26, 2021, 05:09:08 PM »
Stand for taking a salute?