Guess the Place

[John Walker]

Maidstone?

[grandarog]

Good Guess Stewie but No about 20 miles out.

[Stewie]

Bluewater?

[grandarog]

Thank you Pete,  I said the cards were collectable  DTT.


Lets see how long this one takes . Where would you find these Scales.

[DaveTheTrain]

and there is a card for the Startled Saint for sale on ebay now.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-WHITBREAD-INN-SIGN-THE-STARTLED-SAINT-FROM-1958-SPECIAL-ISSUE-MINT-COND/174322481151?hash=item28966df7ff:g:-9MAAOSwO1de7Q87

[pete.mason]

Thanks grandarog, very interesting. Sad to hear of these old pubs with history being demolished but I suppose it's just a "sign of the times". When I was at RAFHalton, the father of a chap in our room, Bill Mercer, was the landlord of a pub in Mereworth & the brewery issued a complete set of all their pubs on small ( about 3"x 2" ) metal plates. "The Startled Saint" from W.Malling was quite something.

Dave, there were several sets issued, originals in tinplate then later on plastic, last set was a repro set issued 1980 ish

[pete.mason]

Well done grandarog. According to the old dear (Annie?) who opened & ran the Startled Saint it was opened on September the 2nd or 3rd ie start of WW2. The wording of the licece transfer read on the lines of" The Dukes head shall be removed" hence the name.  Another curiosity was that both had upstairs ie first floor cellars and the beer was gravity fed to dummy casks at the back of the bar.  Another bit of trivia, Annie (sure that was her name) was sister or sister in law of the guy who ran the Rising Sun in East Malling.  He was attacked by a billy goat and died of injuries probably early 1980s. He was in the same ward at Preston Hall as my father

[grandarog]

They were the old Whitbread Pub Sign cards very collectable now.

[Dave Smith]

Thanks grandarog, very interesting. Sad to hear of these old pubs with history being demolished but I suppose it's just a "sign of the times". When I was at RAFHalton, the father of a chap in our room, Bill Mercer, was the landlord of a pub in Mereworth & the brewery issued a complete set of all their pubs on small ( about 3"x 2" ) metal plates. "The Startled Saint" from W.Malling was quite something.

[grandarog]

Thats "The Duke without a Head" at Wateringbury.


 I must admit I only recognised because I stopped there on the way home when I bought my first Motorbike in 1957.


 I had to research for the answer Pete wanted, hope this will suffice.


 1.Its twin is "The Startled Saint" at West Malling .
 2. Opened December 1940. Frequented by BoB Pilots.
 3. The Duke without a Head acquired its name in Dec 1940 when the licence was transferred from the original "Dukes Head."
 4. Both pubs have been demolished for Housing.
 5 .The Dukes Head was converted to a House and is still standing.


Thanks very interesting kept me busy for an hour or so

[pete.mason]

Another pub, want the name and the name of it's twin. What was significant about their opening date?

[CAT]

Just as I thought, not too difficult as windmill research is a popular past time.

It is indeed High Halden Pete

Assumed to have been built c.1800, it was worked until c.1913, largely demolished c.1933 leaving its roundhouse only to be swept away completely in 1973 presumably for the present housing development, surprisingly called 'Millfield'!

Over to you Pete

[pete.mason]

High Halden?

[CAT]

Many thanks DaveTheTrain.

A bit of both as it's along another frequent route I take between Canterbury and Ashford avoiding the main roads.

My next is clearly a distinctive windmill, so I'm not assuming it will last long, but where was it?

[DaveTheTrain]

High Street, Wye. Building behind the lost wall is the former Wye agricultural College?

Spot on, CAT.  As you describe looking towards Scotton Street.


Did you recognise it, or have to find it?


Over to you.
Dave