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Offline grandarog

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9414 on: January 05, 2024, 08:58:09 PM »
This one shouldn't last long.
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9413 on: January 05, 2024, 04:22:36 PM »
A bit more about the history of Methodism in the Buckland area of Dover here: http://www.dover.freeuk.com/church/londonrd.htm.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9412 on: January 05, 2024, 03:26:40 PM »
Grr, just had the computer seize up halfway through posting a reply.

The Historic England listing¹ has this to say about the hall: "Originally the Methodist Chapel, 1839. Stuccoed. Doric pilasters flanking the front. Cornice and parapet. 2 high windows with glazing bars intact. Projecting porch consisting of an Ionic column and pilaster on each side with pediment over, the porch being up a flight of wide steps. Large 6 panel moulded double doors. The interior contains a gallery supported on slender columns." and the photos afterwards mention Wesleyan Methodist.  This latter makes sense, Wesleyan chapels tended to be larger and more ornate than Primitive Methodist chapels.

Kent Online² gives further history.  After it ceased to be a chapel it became a music hall, then a Sea Cadet centre before finally becoming a party venue and being licensed for weddings.  It lost its licence after complaints of anti-social behaviour including late night loud music, fights and parking problems.  Kent Online includes pictures of its present state.

UKHallHire³ gives no additional information, but does include views of the interior before its present dilapidated state.

An interesting question is when it was first licensed for alcohol.  Typically Methodist premises are sold on with a restrictive covenant banning the sale of alcohol.  However total abstinence (as against temperance) developed in the latter half of 19C, so maybe the change to music hall predated this?  Alternatively, was the putative covenant only lifted when it became a party venue?  More history please!

¹https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1318893?section=official-list-entry
²https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/inside-the-derelict-music-hall-abandoned-for-eight-years-291809/
³https://www.uk-hallhire.co.uk/halls/CT/20257.php

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9411 on: January 05, 2024, 03:24:39 PM »
What’s grandajohn been up to?  ::)

Surprised that nobody has commented on the old phone box in front of the Kings Hall. Bright, Barbie pink with LOVE written on each side. Very hippy dippy 8)

Just found the pink telephone box - surprised no graffiti all over the artwork.  Give it time  :(

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9410 on: January 05, 2024, 01:22:29 PM »
What’s grandajohn been up to?  ::)

Surprised that nobody has commented on the old phone box in front of the Kings Hall. Bright, Barbie pink with LOVE written on each side. Very hippy dippy 8)
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9409 on: January 05, 2024, 12:24:49 PM »
Senior Moment there John Walker ,or too much wine. :)
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Whoops - must stop rushing things ...   I've corrected my post GrandaFilmer  ;D
CAT - The report I read didn't mention it being a chapel, even though it looks every bit a chapel.  Found another report that does mention it as being a chapel - just goes to show, that you can't believe everything you read.  Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9408 on: January 05, 2024, 12:09:52 PM »
Senior Moment there John Walker ,or too much wine. :)
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9407 on: January 05, 2024, 11:49:25 AM »
It was originally built in 1839 as a Methodist Chapel (Wesleyan) up until at least the 1930's before being repurposed for other community uses.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9406 on: January 05, 2024, 11:34:58 AM »
Found it.
Kings Hall ,Buckland Terrace ,287 London Road Dover.
According to Kent Messenger up for Sale last August for £295K.

You have it Grandrog (edited  ;) ) .  As far as I can find out, it wasn't a chapel. 
It was a music hall then a wedding venue, before being closed due to anti-social behaviour.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9405 on: January 05, 2024, 07:55:42 AM »
Found it.
Kings Hall ,Buckland Terrace ,287 London Road Dover.
According to Kent Messenger up for Sale last August for £295K.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9404 on: January 05, 2024, 01:06:02 AM »

Currently derelict.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9403 on: January 04, 2024, 08:25:08 PM »
East Kent coastal town - you're closing in fast  :D

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9402 on: January 04, 2024, 06:09:25 PM »
I'le go a bit further than Ashford,. Is it at an East Kent coastal town.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9401 on: January 04, 2024, 04:05:38 PM »
Well it looks like a disused chapel.  Clearly on quite a hill, but I don't think it's in the Medway Towns.  I've not noticed it in Maidstone.  Canterbury is too flat, so as a first guess Ashford?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #9400 on: January 04, 2024, 03:46:25 PM »
Hi all,  Apologies for the delay but here's the next one for you.