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Offline John Walker

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8893 on: August 23, 2023, 04:16:00 PM »
John Walker beat me to it yet again. :) History of the Brewery on here.

http://www.breweryhistory.com/wiki/index.php?title=200_Years_of_Brewing_at_Wateringbury

http://breweryhistory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Frederick_Leney_%26_Sons_-_an_essay

https://wateringbury.blogspot.com/2018/11/phoenix-brewery-bow-road-wateringbury.html

Grandarog, our searches must have been running in tandem.  Those are the same links that I traced.  My PC must have been running a bit faster than yours ... :)


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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8891 on: August 23, 2023, 09:47:19 AM »
Finally found it - I think.  The Paint Shop,  Phoenix Brewery, Bow Road, Wateringbury.  Owned at some point by Whitbread.  I believe the building has since been demolished.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8890 on: August 22, 2023, 11:52:15 PM »
Not far from Maidstone

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8889 on: August 22, 2023, 09:34:14 PM »
Maidstone area?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8888 on: August 22, 2023, 09:10:21 PM »
Quick opener- Faversham?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8887 on: August 22, 2023, 08:23:03 PM »
Thanks CAT, a tricky one for exact location. Well done MartinR and John Walker.

So next one "200 years?"

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8886 on: August 22, 2023, 03:20:17 PM »
Thanks  for more detail, I was looking at the wrong hill! (Thanks Google :P).  Best view is from https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.1938542,1.139879,3a,75y,355.4h,84.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9lCS4q4PSQOqbnGz3VBj1A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu.  Location information of the bench:
    • Nat Grid:                 TR 19443 48642
    • Co-ords (WGS84):  51°11'41"N,001°08'22"E or 51.19484,1.13935

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8885 on: August 22, 2023, 01:52:20 PM »

Here's a distant view taken from South Barham Hill.   Aprox  51.193810, 1.138304.  You might need to move left or right a bit to see it on top of the hill.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8884 on: August 22, 2023, 01:35:37 PM »
I quite agree that Beachbum should take the honour with this one. The true origin of the name is lost in the mists of time, or a musty box in an archive store, but its later reuse of 'Jumping Downs' can be traced on the earlier maps of the Ordnance Survey from 1871, as well as the Barham Tithe map of 1842. There is the possibility it may have referred to quarrying of the moderately steep sloping valley sides as a portion of land opposite recorded as 'Part of Stone Quarry Field' and 'Stone Quarry Field'.

The two included images show it in recent years as a nature reserve, whilst the second is the LIDAR image showing the course of the motorcycle track, the lumps and bumps of which are vaguely discernible in the reserve today. For its O.S. location, its at TR19407 48639, or 51°11'41.52"N,001°08'19.83"E in watery terms.

Over to you Beachbum and apologies for the delays.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8883 on: August 22, 2023, 10:57:54 AM »
The location information for Jumping Downs Nature Reserve found by entering the name into Google Maps is:
  • Co-ords from Google maps: 51.19293447583034, 1.1360682545372907
  • Nat Grid:                               TR1922248420
  • Nearest Post Code:              CT4 6LN
  • Co-ords (WGS84):                51°11'35"N,001°08'10"E

Can't see any benches though.  someone else will have to explain where in the reserve the bench is.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8882 on: August 22, 2023, 09:07:31 AM »
As John Walker says ,Its a Nature Reserve named Jumping Downs .
   Named by Anglo Saxon,s it means Hilly or Humpy Farming Ground   .Probably nowadays people think it to refers Horse Race Steeple Chasing or to the motor Bike,s Jumping the Hillocks when Scrambling.

Beachbum Wins he found the Bench first. :)

Something else I've leaned from GTP.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8881 on: August 22, 2023, 07:08:39 AM »
As John Walker says ,Its a Nature Reserve named Jumping Downs .
   Named by Anglo Saxon,s it means Hilly or Humpy Farming Ground   .Probably nowadays people think it to refers Horse Race Steeple Chasing or to the motor Bike,s Jumping the Hillocks when Scrambling.

Beachbum Wins he found the Bench first. :)

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8880 on: August 21, 2023, 10:54:41 PM »
Well, I know the location and the current name for the area, but I can't find any clue as to the origin of the name.  Unless there's some connection with the racecourse that used to be on the Barham Downs outside Canterbury.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #8879 on: August 21, 2023, 09:17:55 PM »
Apologies for the delay, but you are definitely heading the right way Beachbum and are in the right parish of Barham and the bench's dedication. A little more precision on its location, the name of which is a reflection of the lands former use.