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Offline johnfilmer

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10183 on: Today at 07:44:17 AM »
That’s the Place (!) JW.

A very long history, but well concealed so many people have no clue what is there.

My mother went there on some specialty arranged Jolly with the Rainham Townswoman’s Guild 35+ years ago, and was quite impressed.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10182 on: July 16, 2024, 09:52:03 PM »
Whew!!!!   Found it.  Halfway down Ulcombe Hill.  Next to the entrance to Ulcombe Place.   All Saints Church of Ulcombe nearby.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10181 on: July 16, 2024, 07:18:08 PM »
Sorry if I confused everyone, by village name I meant such as Wychling church, as opposed to St Margaret at Wychling, if that makes sense.
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10180 on: July 16, 2024, 05:12:01 PM »
Struggling here.  I can't find any church in the area with a village name.  So far I can only find  Saint  xxxxx's Churches.  Perhaps I'm searching the wrong area ie.  either side of Sutton Valence/  :)
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10179 on: July 16, 2024, 04:02:03 PM »
The village of the same name as the church and this house lies at the bottom of the hill upon which they are built, although they are not at the very top unlike others along the ridge.
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10178 on: July 15, 2024, 12:07:12 PM »
There are a series of churches along the top of the ridge, the house that we seek is close to one, can’t be seen from the road, and only on the aerial view from Google.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10177 on: July 14, 2024, 09:08:20 PM »
JW Sutton Valence is a different angle on the same view across the Weald.
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10176 on: July 14, 2024, 08:08:43 PM »
Brands Hatch: I still Marshal there now johnfilmer and will be at the Superbikes next weekend.
I also have memories of Jerry Marshall in a variety of cars, one being a massive Aston Martin. He liked to start at the back and work his way through to the win.

My first outings were to the Transatlantic Races (Bikes). BOAC 6 hour races were great and hearing the Mazda Rotary reving at 17,000 revs (Johny Herbert). Seeing Nigel Mansell win was a great moment too.

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10175 on: July 14, 2024, 08:00:40 PM »
I must admit that I'm never sure of exactly where the edges of the Greensand Ridge and the Downs are.

Are we near Sutton Valence ?
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10174 on: July 14, 2024, 05:52:48 PM »
Hollingbourne is on the North Downs, the view I chose is across the Weald, and is from the Greensand Ridge, which in this area is the next set of hills to the south of the Downs. Dodgy memory of O level Geography is that this whole area was a dome formed of layers, but the dome has eroded so that the harder layers are curved ridges, and the softer ones form the lower levels between. Coming along the A20 by, for instance, Lenham you have the scarp (steep) slope of the Downs on one side, and the dip (gentle) slope of the Greensand Ridge on the other.

The steep sides all face into the centre, which is the Weald, and the gentle slopes to the outer edges.

Clear as mud? but it was nearly 60years ago when a certain Mr Hill (aka Prune as he was well wrinkled) tried his best to inform us. Also, remember that I am an Engineer not a geologist.
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10173 on: July 14, 2024, 05:11:30 PM »
Are we somewhere above Hollingbourne?
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10172 on: July 14, 2024, 02:51:18 PM »
Many thanks Beachbum, I have reclaimed my laptop now my wife has finished Zooming.

My father used to take my (much) older sister to Brands on his James motorcycle to watch the grasstrack in the late 40s.

My own visits were in the late sixties - Mini festival with my other sister, early 70s Porsche 917s in the BOAC 6hours, and James Hunt in the GP. I lived on the Gravesend Road at Culverstone near Meopham in the mid 70s and if you went into the field behind us during GP practice you could still hear them clearly. The Matra engines simply howled, the 12cylinder Ferraris also. Went to a few winter meets in the 80s, but by then family duties and a very full competitve target shooting calender took over.

I marshalled a couple of times, club events, memories of Dave Brodie (Run, Baby Run on the front of his winning black Escort) and Gerry Marshall in a huge Vauxhall (Big Bertha?). My wife lived in West Kingsdown and she and her sister used to work in the bar at weekends when I first knew her in 1976.

Meanwhile, back at GTP...

This view is over the Weald, taken from the latest GSV, but behind the camera is the entrance to a very old established house. Its white name plate is clearly visible on GSV - so where is it?
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10171 on: July 13, 2024, 08:17:21 PM »
That was a good one Beachbum.  I should have realised it wasn't my guess of Rhodes Minnis - that was a clockwise track.
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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10170 on: July 13, 2024, 07:37:18 PM »
You have it johnfilmer, it is the original grasstrack circuit at Brands Hatch:

In 1926, a group of cyclists stopped to investigate a mushroom field near West Kingsdown in Kent and quickly appreciated the natural bowl that they found there. With the farmer's approval the land at Brands Hatch Farm soon became a popular venue for cycling and pace-making. By 1928 motorcyclists, who had been using surrounding woodland for scrambles, took the first steps towards transforming the area into a racing circuit. In 1932 the Bermondsey, Owls, Sidcup and West Kent clubs joined forces and staged their first meeting in March 1932.

Brands Hatch was occupied by the army during the War but quickly resumed racing thereafter and in 1947, Brands Hatch Stadium Ltd was formed with Joe Francis as managing director. Joe persuaded the BBC to televise a grass track meeting at Brands Hatch, the first motorcycle event to be seen on British TV.

The Tarmac surface was laid in 1947, so this could be the first official race in 1932. Perhap the background cars help the date?

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Re: Guess the Place
« Reply #10169 on: July 13, 2024, 04:42:09 PM »
I think that early Brands Hatch grass track was raced anticlockwise. So if that’s Paddock Hill in the background then this shot would match the present start/finish,  but going round the other way.

I will go for 1947.
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